tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post8267226161479593323..comments2024-02-15T02:46:48.670-05:00Comments on Erin O'Brien: A beautiful comeuppanceErin O'Brienhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09089592061725346901noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-24539496769136152692014-05-24T07:44:35.852-04:002014-05-24T07:44:35.852-04:00Thanks so much for dropping in and commenting, Lis...Thanks so much for dropping in and commenting, Liskula.Erin O'Brienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09089592061725346901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-19444528334781886132014-05-23T14:22:26.801-04:002014-05-23T14:22:26.801-04:00Erin... I like your blog... I thank you for unders...Erin... I like your blog... I thank you for understanding my point. And just so everyone that reads this knows, the name calling was not what was considered defamatory or libel in my case. Their were no nude images, but there was a few outright lie's about who I am, and that is what was defamatory. Of course the media could not print it, because they would in fact be defaming me further. <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10776988758207550570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-17507332650305850732009-08-21T07:35:02.727-04:002009-08-21T07:35:02.727-04:00Erin I was refering to one of your previous commen...Erin I was refering to one of your previous commenters who made just such a claim.<br /><br />And yes slander and libel are wrong. I am not defending that.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17269114655802698386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-70089509760972989032009-08-21T01:36:17.017-04:002009-08-21T01:36:17.017-04:00I think that in this day and age there are good re...I think that in this day and age there are good reasons to stay anonymous, ESPECIALLY if one is vitriolic. Your friend, X.sevnetushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13414474487805439816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-25380435645666166502009-08-20T16:33:12.930-04:002009-08-20T16:33:12.930-04:00I use my real name, but it has nothing to do with ...I use my real name, but it has nothing to do with moral courage.<br /><br />I just happen to be a raving egomaniac.Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02155991693956178030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-10168258804558649522009-08-20T14:47:08.026-04:002009-08-20T14:47:08.026-04:00Hoose: It's not about anonymity, it's abou...Hoose: It's not about anonymity, it's about when someone uses anonymity to slander or commit libel.<br /><br />Slander/libel is wrong no matter who does it. And I'm very glad to see that judges are finally stepping up and saying, NO you cannot wrongfully smear a real person on a public venue and remain anonymous.<br /><br />If your real name and image was made public with a bevy of absolutely false claims, would you be all right with that? Would you just shrug your shoulders and say "oh well" ?<br /><br />And this post has nothing to do with party affiliation or politics.Erin O'Brienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09089592061725346901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-62165611073720416352009-08-20T14:23:02.208-04:002009-08-20T14:23:02.208-04:00I guess I am a nameless coward. I do not think I s...I guess I am a nameless coward. I do not think I spread hate like those morons, but there are reasons I post under a fake name. Of course instead of Hoosierboy I could be John Jones, or Joe O'Brien or Sam Smithers. The point being a first and last name on the website does not mean the author gains respectanbility. Lack of one does not autmatically make the writer a Rush fan. There are plenty of kooks on both sides of the aisle.<br /><br />No one knows with whom they are communicating on the internet. That is why sex offendersw get caught all the time when the 13 year-old girl they think is falling for them is really a 46 year-old cop.<br /><br />Sorry shanerology (I am sure that is not your real name) anonymous political dessent has long been a part of our political fabric. Would you maintain the Federalsist Papers are invalid, and "no opinion at all"? <br /><br />Should we ignore the 12 comments to this post, since they could be attributed to anonymous, or lacking a full name?Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17269114655802698386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-39463900425255215422009-08-20T13:26:59.730-04:002009-08-20T13:26:59.730-04:00Yes, Erin, I was scared straight about libel in my...Yes, Erin, I was scared straight about libel in my high school journalism class way back in the dark ages of 1974 when journalists were expected to be mindful of such quaint notions.Rodger Jacobshttp://carnytown.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-3264941599062517952009-08-20T09:40:55.598-04:002009-08-20T09:40:55.598-04:00Don't feel bad, RJ, I had to look up "spa...Don't feel bad, RJ, I had to look up "spavined." It means: <i>Erin O'Brien is a luminary with big tits.</i>Erin O'Brienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09089592061725346901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-84948038942922110172009-08-20T09:24:41.088-04:002009-08-20T09:24:41.088-04:00I knew what a skanky ho was right off but I had to...I knew what a skanky ho was right off but I had to look lugubrious up. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.<br /><br />adjective: looking or sounding sad and dismal.<br /><br />DERIVATIVES<br /><br />lugubriously adverb<br /><br />lugubriousness noun<br /><br />ORIGIN early 17th cent.: from Latin lugubris (from lugere ‘mourn’ ) + -ous .<br /><br />lugubrious hymns | their lugubrious aunt was too melancholy for her own good. <br /><br />mournful, gloomy, sad, unhappy, doleful, glum, melancholy, woeful, miserable, woebegone, forlorn, somber, solemn, serious, sorrowful, morose, dour, cheerless, joyless, dismal; funereal, sepulchral; informal down in/at the mouth; literary dolorous, glum. antonym cheerful<br /> <br /><br />RJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-44035713523375472692009-08-20T08:40:56.862-04:002009-08-20T08:40:56.862-04:00Everyone can be judge for his/herself: here's ...Everyone can be judge for his/herself: <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8359356" rel="nofollow">here's a clip of Cohen on GMA with Diane Sawyer.</a>Erin O'Brienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09089592061725346901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-3346908176071076952009-08-20T08:25:36.741-04:002009-08-20T08:25:36.741-04:00Well, Mr. L, I'm not sure who's the lugie ...Well, Mr. L, I'm not sure who's the lugie around here, but at least you got my point, it's not about anonymity or pen names, it's about faceless bullies and slanderers.Erin O'Brienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09089592061725346901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-15420200443764702102009-08-19T19:21:31.023-04:002009-08-19T19:21:31.023-04:00Hmmm...I thought *I* was the 'lugubrious' ...Hmmm...I thought *I* was the 'lugubrious' one around here!!! Not sure what I think about this issue, but I have often wondered about the people who use "anonymous" as an excuse to behave in a manner they most likely wouldn't in person.Mr. Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09994578008194453906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-46564240085367052942009-08-19T19:20:14.673-04:002009-08-19T19:20:14.673-04:00Hi Limes and GH. Thanks for stopping in.
Phil, gl...Hi Limes and GH. Thanks for stopping in.<br /><br />Phil, glad you're back.<br /><br />Actually, Mr. Crawford, I haven't counted you among the anonymous in some time. And--although it's always marvelous to see you--I mostly extended the invitation for the benefit of your esteemed readership.Erin O'Brienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09089592061725346901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-48194433082655746822009-08-19T19:04:27.584-04:002009-08-19T19:04:27.584-04:00My dearest Erin,
Thank you for your comment at Ve...My dearest Erin,<br /><br />Thank you for your comment at Velociworld, and please rest assured there is nothing "off-topic" at my site, as that would imply that my natterings convey some sense of topicality or coherence in the first place.<br /><br />as to you rinsistence on continuing to flog this spavined old nag of an issue, I do not believe usage of a nom de plume automatically denotes anonymity. My first three months of archived posts are of course in my own name, my name is on my book in the sidebar, and I can be contacted at kimccrawford@gmail.com as well as the velociman email address.<br /><br />To the Mark Twains and George Eliots and Richard Bachmanns of the world: I salute you!<br /><br />Your lugubrious and faithful servant, etc&etc,<br /><br />KimVelocimanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10738631458196804170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-6862778804982894982009-08-19T18:18:29.934-04:002009-08-19T18:18:29.934-04:00I called the ACLU once when my civil liberties wer...I called the ACLU once when my civil liberties were being abridged, they never called back.<br /><br />Douchebags.<br /><br />I ultimately solved my problem with Amendment #2, dontchyaknow.<br /><br />The Constitution is a warm and fuzzy thing.philbillynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-3820070380778858792009-08-19T16:35:46.882-04:002009-08-19T16:35:46.882-04:00Shane - I think your rapist metaphor might be just...Shane - I think your rapist metaphor might be just a tad off.<br /><br />Try this on for size - it's like when a woman wears a very low cut blouse and then yells at you for staring at her chest.<br /><br />Regardless of how a woman is dressed, I can't "kinda see" where he thought no meant yes.Glass Houseshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17945451135515350609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-33097822014873158752009-08-19T16:23:53.290-04:002009-08-19T16:23:53.290-04:00I caught up with this one late, but it pushes all ...I caught up with this one late, but it pushes all my buttons. I'm going to go "mom" here. I taught my kid, and she caught on young, that you have to own your own stuff. You have that lovely privilege of saying anything in the world you think . . . as long as you're responsible for it. Cowards who ambush people brave enough to walk in the light of day are just *small*.Leslie Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15702472429383639709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-25537402001093169322009-08-19T15:54:47.371-04:002009-08-19T15:54:47.371-04:00Hi Roger.
I guess when you write professionally, ...Hi Roger.<br /><br />I guess when you write professionally, somewhere along the line, a boss has scared you straight about libel. <i>If you write it, it better be true.</i> <br /><br />In the Cohen example, the names are one thing, but I'll bet that case is teetering on surrounding images/content and the word "psychotic."<br /><br />As for the claim "reader beware," even if he/she is, it still negatively impacts his/her perception of the person being defamed.Erin O'Brienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09089592061725346901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-88999346478108836872009-08-19T15:42:18.827-04:002009-08-19T15:42:18.827-04:00One has to have a license to operate a motor vehic...One has to have a license to operate a motor vehicle but anyone can jump onto the internet, unfettered and free to post any anonymous and slanderous tripe they want. <br /><br />This is not a freedom of speech issue, Erin, as you point out and I hope the ACLU stays seated and keeps their fucking mouths shut on this one. In our criminal justice code, one has the right to know their accuser; the same principle should apply on the web. If some asshat wants to talk smack about me, that's fine and dandy. But I want to know your name and your address so I can serve papers on your foolish ass. <br /><br />It's high time we lose the sociological framework that says the internet is nothing but one gigantic bathroom wall. I've been using my real name on the web for 10 years, which means I am accountable for each and every thing I say. It's not that difficult and it does make you think carefully before leaving a comment or writing a post.Rodger Jacobshttp://carnytown.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-22971023147809430702009-08-19T15:37:34.201-04:002009-08-19T15:37:34.201-04:00All good points Shane, and I agree it seems like a...All good points Shane, and I agree it seems like a thin case, although I haven't seen the site. I wonder if it contained nudity.<br /><br />Here's why I understand her point: She's a model. Her image is her livelihood. If she is depicted on a damaging site over which she has no control and a prospective employer sees it and decides not to hire her, those are real damages.<br /><br />Put yourself in this position: You wake up one day and find a site featuring your real name and a picture. Maybe it says that you've stolen money or you gave someone VD or you attend KKK meetings or you're a liar. Whatever--maybe it just calls you names, or says you're "psychotic" (as was the case with Cohen).<br /><br />Along comes a prospective boss and googles your name. He sees the site and crosses you off the list. Who wants to hire a psychotic? You might want to sue someone to.<br /><br />I guess what I'm saying is, when it's YOUR real name and face, you feel differently about it.Erin O'Brienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09089592061725346901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-90081766641757055292009-08-19T15:13:18.134-04:002009-08-19T15:13:18.134-04:00Racism and vitriol should be outed by Google, no d...Racism and vitriol should be outed by Google, no doubt about it. However, calling someone a ho, a skank or even a psychotic isn't really grounds for getting the legal system involved. <br /><br />It's kind of like when a woman that dresses like a whore is raped and the rapist uses the defense of "she was askin' fer it!" You disagree with his excuse for the crime, but you kinda see where he's going with it. <br /><br />No one should hide behind spineless subterfuge when stressing their opinion. If you haven't the courage to signature your opinion then you haven't an opinion: you're just a repeater of someone elses opinion that you probably don't even truly comprehend; or a Rush Limbaugh frequenter.Shanerologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02426610764766515726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-12757851905842884582009-08-19T14:56:54.701-04:002009-08-19T14:56:54.701-04:00Thanks for dropping in Wayne.
Hi Anon and Randy.
...Thanks for dropping in Wayne.<br /><br />Hi Anon and Randy.<br /><br />Like I say in one of the embedded links, Sean, it's not anonymity that bothers me, but when people use it to hurl hatred, racism and untruthful smears, that drives me up a wall.Erin O'Brienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09089592061725346901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-81031608699709883882009-08-19T14:24:32.312-04:002009-08-19T14:24:32.312-04:00I let people post anonymously to my site, but I ha...I let people post anonymously to my site, but I have had a few of those, "Say it to my face, motherfucker," moments. I'm trying to look at them as opportunities to thicken my skin and grow up a little, but I'll tell you what.<br /><br />I'd love to know where those people live.Sean Cravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13763869499494698057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18122582.post-17736081591875358322009-08-19T12:15:01.073-04:002009-08-19T12:15:01.073-04:00Show off!
Randy "The Glazed Ham Man" J...Show off!<br /><br />Randy "The Glazed Ham Man" Johnson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com